All rights reserved. Knowing the angle of the sun related to your position on the earth, we can approximate the time in minutes using 2/cos (a), as long as you're not too near the poles. The true church, the "born again" believers that make up the body of Christ, is spiritually awake and will have the strength (worthiness) to escape all these things that are going to take place. March 19, 2020 Sign up for our free daily newsletter. If one denies that Matthew 24:36-25:30 pertains to the rapture, an enormous problem results, since Matthew 24:36-25:30 contains the only explicit biblical support for imminency. Doing so seems to fulfill Acts 18:6 and 2 Timothy 2:25, and also seems to prevent the understanding of His prophetic Word. Unbelievers will be put away, taken off the planet. Thats all we ask. God does NOT always speak in the way we are used to hearing. Only the World and Satan are constrained by time. We know Jesus knows every detailJesus teaches in Luke 21. For it will come upon all who live on the face of the whole earth. If so, why? "The one shall be taken, and the other shall be left" (Luke 17:34). You will not find the word "rapture" in the Bible. It is also interesting that when Jesus revealed truth about the Tribulation to John in the book of Revelation (see Revelation chapters 6-7), Jesus used the same pattern that He used in Luke 21! Then He goes back to the beginning of the Tribulation, and describes the persecution of Tribulation saints. The term where we get the English "rapture" IS in the Bible. BOTH parts are essential for there to be a Bible prophecy. Matthew does not record Christ's answer to the first question but does record the answers to questions (2) and (3) which both deal with the second coming of Christ. Amos 3:7, Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.Amos 3:7 further argues against the idea of an any moment Rapture. One purpose of the rapture is to give relief from the suffering and persecution after 7 years not to escape the suffering and persecution before it happens. and using the events in the near future (70AD) as a . Some believe this means that the Church will be removed from the earth before the judgment of God - Pre-Trib Rapture. If all believers are caught up during the Second Coming of Christ at the end of the Tribulation, then only unbelievers are left upon the earth. The best way to view our articles and Q&A. TEXT. Satan would seize every opportunity . James warns that after the saints pass through a door into heaven, they will come before the Judgment Seat of Christ (James 5:8-9). Prophecy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Giving, Leadership, Mercy, Word of wisdom, Word of knowledge, Faith, Gifts of healings, Miracles, Prophecy, Distinguishing between spirits, Tongues, Interpretation of tongues, Whoever speaks, Whoever renders service. Jesus answered, "Where there is a dead body, there the vultures would gather." Jesus' reply clearly indicates judgment. The Ark went up during the judgements, and then came back down to earth at the conclusion of the trial/cleansing. While Satan has beaten up Pastors and congregations with gross errors being taught in this areado we throw the baby out with the bath water? The only thing you might compare it to is The dead in Christ rise first the Saints and meet him in the sky to help fight the worlds armies this is not you and it is not me . Spoiler alertthe order of these verses fits perfectly with how prophecy is written. Jack Kelley published over 9,000 Bible Study resources here from 1999, until the Lord called him home in the fall of 2015. We as humans are limited by time. Luke 21:36 in all English translations. By itself, this might not mean that the two people were men, for Greek (as in most languages) can use male words and pronouns to refer generically to "people" whether they are male or female. It seems unreasonable to . I wanted to go into a study on Luke 21: 36 to see if Jesus was really refering to a pre-trib rapture. For those wanting the meat and potatoes version, click the Timeline link above. Both Luke 21 and Revelation 6-7 have the same miraculous fingerprints of authorship on themand those fingerprints belong to the One who was fully God-in-the-fleshJesus Christ, the eternal Son of God. see GREEK exaiphnes. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 3 "Truly I tell you," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. Jesus warns us in vs. 36 to watchwatch what? Verify what we are saying, according to the standards called for by the word of God. False Christs, Wars, Famines, Death, Martyrs Global Chaos. 36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.". We know the vss related to, He comes like a thief in the night etc., but can such verses contradict Luke 21 and what Jesus just taught us? The church will be safely whisked away and stand before the Son of Man while chaos and terrors . Although this text is usually typically taken to teach the "rapture" of believers to heaven when Christ returns, I tried to show that it teaches no such thing. And so do all other MSS. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting (indulgences), and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. vs. 3. What do you gain? To understand what God meant by escape lets take a look at 1 Corinthians 10:13. This seems to be confirmed in Luke 21:36 where Jesus gives advice to pray always to be counted worthy to escape these coming horrors and to stand before the Son of Man. But now, after reading Luke 17:37, my rapture theory disappeared! QUESTION:Mary from Texas had a question about Luke 21:36 where it says, I watch therefore and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass and to stand before the Son of Man. Do some people think this is speaking of the rapture? Revelation 19:17-18 and Ezekiel 39:17-19 each describe a scene where birds will . There is a jump of 2,000 years within the single prophetic verse of Isaiah 11:4. e.'). In Luke 21:31,32 the subject is the coming Kingdom of God. Personal updates from Samantha. They believe that this passage is saying that we could escape all of the tribulations spoken of earlier on in Luke 21, which would mean that Luke 21:36 is a reference to a pre-trib rapture. It carries over into a hangover that causes us to miss the total beauty of our Gospel salvation. In Luke 17:36 Jesus gave a prophecy that one day two men will be standing in a field. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. A statement that only our all-knowing Savior, God the Son, equal to God the Father, can truthfully make. Then He begins a description of the persecution of Tribulation saints in Revelation 6:9, with the description of the fifth seal. The Ark went up during the judgements, and then came back down to earth at the conclusion of the trial/cleansing. This is why we point out that in order to understand the timing of a prophecy, we cannot assume anything from our normal guidelines of reading. This verse summarizes the sheep and goat judgment which He later describes in greater detail in Matthew 25:31-46. Genesis 4:21 His brother was named Jubal; he was the father of all who play the lyre and the flute. The first three chapters of Revelation are letters that Jesus commands John to write to the main churches that they have established among the gentiles. The temple in Jesus time was destroyed exactly as Jesus prophesied it would be. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. Jesus tells us the Holy Spirit will guide us into ALL truth and show us things to comehow? Speaking to a Gentile Audience. Revelation 7:14 also shows that the ones clothed with white robes are they who came out of great tribulation. 37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives. The Timeline Chart gives more vss showing the differences and adding even more clarity. Pray for the Holy Spirit to teach the truth and show what is to come. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Escape all these things, then, could be a reference to Gods guiding and protecting hand for His people. Does the account of the Flood align with a rapture viewpoint? To believe that the Rapture can happen at any time, and could possibly happen out-of-the-blue, with no connection to surrounding events and with no advance notice at all from Godsuch a view of the Rapture goes directly against the spirit of Amos 3:7. There is not the slightest indication that the event in Luke 17:36 is secret. At the last trump: Systematic Eschatology page 32 First off, 1 Corinthians was written in 52-53 A.D. and therefore, cannot be referring to any of the trumpets of Revelation, since Revelation would not be written for another 40 years. Therefore, when we point out that there is a jump of time between Luke 21:19 and Luke 21:20, for example, we are not proposing a nonsensical, radical way of reading prophecy. This vs is saying that the dead in Christ will be raised first, just like 1 Cor. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Just like the Tower of Babel, this false perversion of what Bible prophecy is, allows mankind to think that they are closer to the level of Jesus, in terms of prophecy. Our danger is, lest the day of death and of judgment should come upon us when we are not prepared. Where is your faith? Jesus doesn't know the day and hour) should automatically be seen as suspect, and wrong. We each have our Spiritual gifts. The following is in response to the initial question and to disprove that Luke 21:20-24 is referring only to the destruction of the Temple, and Jerusalem, in 70 A.D. If we ignore Jesus clear teachings, then the end truly will come at any moment for those who ignore Jesus prophetic words. While rhetoricalthe answer is NO! 12:11 tells us, ButtheSpirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.. "Be alert at all times, praying that you may have the strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of Man." (Luke 21:36). And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luke 21:36 says, Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. The instructions to watch and pray refer to us checking ourselves and making sure that we are ready. Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: vss. So they obviously had to have been in it in the first place. Jesus is the Speaker through all Old and New Testament prophecy. Only God/Jesus the Christ, could perform and reveal to us the kind of prophetic truth we find in Luke 21 and in Revelation 6-7. Which is how Jesus can tell us WHEN to. It is highly improbable that the last trump, refers to anything in the gospels either, being that most date the Gospels at later than 50 A.D. So where are we going with this point? 30; Luke 21:25-27), and consequently also deny the promise of the rapture as an escape for true believers from the coming tribulation (Luke 21:36; 1 Thess. I Corinthians 2:13 says we should be comparing spiritual things with spiritual as we follow God. Jesus created time and is outside of the restrictions thereof. Back to the example, when you hear us present the idea that Jesus knew the day and hour of his returnand that there is a perfectly acceptable and Biblical way to understand Mark 13:32, so that Jesus does not have to be ignorant of the day and hourhow does our viewpoint measure up to other relevant Scripture? It's a challenge and an encouragement for all who follow Jesus. No, Luke 21:36 is a warning that we should continue to pray, be vigilant about turning away from sin, and try to remain holy. These things take place after. When Jesus says, "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened", He is speaking of the rapture in the previous passage (Matt 24:29-31) and the fact that the "WWII generation" will not pass away until it happens. If we tell Jesus He doesnt knowhow can He tell USwhat TO know? Revelation 5:9 is significant, in that it shows Christians gathered in heaven just after Jesus (the Lamb) takes the End Time scroll from the hand of the Father, and just before the first seal of that End Time scroll is opened. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. God made the rapture as a way of escape so that we would be able to bear the tribulation. The rapture, often referred to as God graciously removing Overcomers from the trials/cleansing/judgements on the earth, is also seen in the account of the flood. The event Jesus is describing is the Rapture, here also associated with the opening of a door. In the King James Version, in 5:9, we read, "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed US to God by thy blood" The redeemed say this just before the first seal is opened, so that the Tribulation can begin. Friends and criticsWe are each accountable for our actions and statements. Luke 17 provides further powerful proof of the order of gatherings, as if the harmony of several passages so far were not enough. Is prophecy nothing more than knowing about the future? It's the term "harpazo" in Greek and "rapio" in Latin. A trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible. This passage isn't talking about the rapture, it's talking about Jesus second coming. The more of HIS truth we know, the greater our peace, and our burden to share His Salvation message and prophetic truth with others, so they can be ready. Read full chapter. When to look up, for our redemption draweth nigh. The short time detail regarding Satan, is one of the GREATEST indicators that Revelation 12, and the birth of the man child, is speaking about the Rapture/Catching Up/Caught Upbefore the Great Tribulation. But the textual and scholarly evidence on this question is overwhelming. From a compound of a (as a negative particle) and phaino (compareexaiphnes) (meaning non-apparent); unexpected, i.e. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.". Answer (1 of 2): He doesnt the word rapture isnt in the bible. The pattern of Jesus description of the Tribulation in Revelation 6 is exactly the same as in His description of it in Luke 21! Both Revelation 4-11 and 12-16 are giving details about the same events, from different perspectives. What do you gain? Here are the key facts we have gathered up to this point: Luke 17:37 and Matthew 24:28 indicate that some will be sent to a place where birds will be flying over dead bodies. More fascinating is that Revelation 6-7, in its description of the Great Tribulation, also reflects the spirit of Jesus use of the word before (in terms of importance) in Luke 21. 21:7). After understanding Luke 21, who is willing to limit Jesus? According to the law of Moses, if a man died childless, his brother was to have a temporary marital relationship with the widow for the purpose of producing an heir (Deuteronomy 25:5-6). Revelation 4-11 is a timeline of what takes place from the viewpoint of being in heaven. GUIDING US INTO ALL TRUTH, THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL SHOW US THINGS TO COME. How can they when, Jesus comes as a thief to those not prepared at the Rapture. The need to be born again through the blood of Christ, asking for the forgiveness of personal sins, and then following Christ daily, reading the Bible, praying for His will in our lives, praying for our family/Pastor/Government and Israel etc., going to church, getting in a Bible study small group, volunteering, donating of our first fruits, are all part of being Christ-like, and a path to being closer to Jesus. When God promises through predictive prophecy that we will be saved by calling on Christ (note the predictive prophetic language: "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord SHALL be saved"), our salvation is more than just something that is promised to us as a statement of knowledge; our salvation is also brought into existence by the spiritual Creative act of Christ alone. For our 3 second friends and critics, vss 10-19 take place right after the rapture (vss 12-19, then vss 10-11 according to Jesus). 15:52. vs. 16 another confirmation of the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first. THIS group in heaven sings the song of the redeemed, and identify these redeemed as us themselves! The Temple was seen as a microcosm of the world (Ps. During the rapture, Overcomers are Caught Up, and then come back down to earth with Jesus at His Second Coming/Return of Christ after the trials/cleansing. Believers will be received to Him and will enter the Kingdom. When Luke 17:34 says, "one will be taken and the other left," the words "one" and "other" are both masculine. 5 And the light (Jesus) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 1 As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. However, escaping the tribulations could be a reference to a few other things. This is particularly problematic since other avenues for proving the imminency of the rapture, whether historical or deductive, have been inconclusive at best. Thats what He was warning them about. His truth gives us confidence in His planHis truth will never instill fear in us. Since Paul does not define it, the trump mentioned, had to be a trump that all were familiar with, and is derived from other biblical or related sources. This is covered in Systematic Eschatology with resources, mostly on pages 32-38. vs. 32 UNDERSTAND that, from the timing of Luke 21:7-9, . 10 Then He said unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. Just like Jesus paid it all in suffering for our sinsJesus also knows it all when it comes to the time of the Rapture. Just because Daniel chapter 12 follows chapter 11 in the text, does NOT necessarily mean that the time of fulfillment of Daniel 12s prophecies are after the time of fulfillment in Daniel 11s prophecies. In fact, the exact same thing happens between Revelation chapter 11 and chapter 12even the numbers of the chapters are the same (as Daniel 11&12)! 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. There is NO warning, NO series of events, NO . To be accounted WORTHY to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Where the Scriptures say twothe Jews said one. . 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of . 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